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in 2010, scott brown of massachusetts wins the special election up there after running a campaign to kill the legislation. his victory gives the gop 41 votes in the senate which gives them the power to block any fixes or improvements in the new law. once implementation begins, republican governors across the country refuse to build their own state exchanges putting unexpected pressure on the federal exchanges. then congressional republicans refuse to give hhs the money it needs to build the federal exchange. then there's the obstruction campaigns. they include gop darling like rush limbaugh and dick marsh urging people to avoid tax refunds as a ways to avoid or sign petitions rejecting their exchanges. then there's the gop icing on the cake. a two-week government shutdown and the threat to blow up the economy. if the health care isn't dismantled. strong stuff. ron reagan, i want to start with you. this has been a concerted effort. it's like when you read about lincoln coming to washington through baltimore and into town because the secession movement has begun. they didn't give this
in 2010, scott brown of massachusetts wins the special election up there after running a campaign to kill the legislation. his victory gives the gop 41 votes in the senate which gives them the power to block any fixes or improvements in the new law. once implementation begins, republican governors across the country refuse to build their own state exchanges putting unexpected pressure on the federal exchanges. then congressional republicans refuse to give hhs the money it needs to build the...
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that's what did you in massachusetts skpch massachusetts. and in order to make sure your risk pool is right, you havavav hav young and healthy people in it so that the people would be taken care of who are older and sicker. that's what you did. but here's what you said to meet the press back in 2007 about the mandate. i want to play it and get your reaction. >> i think you're going to find that when it's all said and done after all these states, laboratories and democracy get the chance to try their own plans, that those who follow the path we pursued will find it's the best path and we'll have a nation that takes the mandate approach. >> you don't believe all states shu should adopt this, but you do believe all states should take a mandate approach. if it's so good for massachusetts, what's wrong with taking it national? >> what i said there was precisely right, which was each state should be able to put in place the plan that works best for them, and if they adopt the massachusetts plan, terrific. if they adopt a different plan, that's als
that's what did you in massachusetts skpch massachusetts. and in order to make sure your risk pool is right, you havavav hav young and healthy people in it so that the people would be taken care of who are older and sicker. that's what you did. but here's what you said to meet the press back in 2007 about the mandate. i want to play it and get your reaction. >> i think you're going to find that when it's all said and done after all these states, laboratories and democracy get the chance...
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is it the same health care plan the former governor sold to massachusetts? i will talk to the architect of both plans in minutes. >>> the president's meeting with the leader of iraq. exactly what kind of military help is that country seeking from the u.s., and will it happen? >>> in office politics, down to its last days? i talked to cnbc's carl quintanilla about the problems with blackberry. >>> and how much money could this work of art fetch? it's in today's list of number ones. >>> hello, everyone. it's high noon here in the east, 9:00 a.m. out west. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." he's back with a whole lot to say. mitt romney on today's "meet the press," talking about the comparisons between romney care in massachusetts and obama care. >> and perhaps the most important lesson the president failed to learn was you have to tell the american people the truth. what when he told the american people you could keep your health insurance if you wanted to keep that plan, period, he said that time and again, he wasn't telling the truth. i think that fundame
is it the same health care plan the former governor sold to massachusetts? i will talk to the architect of both plans in minutes. >>> the president's meeting with the leader of iraq. exactly what kind of military help is that country seeking from the u.s., and will it happen? >>> in office politics, down to its last days? i talked to cnbc's carl quintanilla about the problems with blackberry. >>> and how much money could this work of art fetch? it's in today's list of...
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"the new republic" has a provocative article out there arguing that elizabeth warren from massachusetts could be gearing up to challenge clinton. "if hillary clinton runs and retains her ties to wall street, warren will be more likely to join the race, not less. warren is shrewd enough to understand the future of the democratic party is at stake in 2016. at age 64, she knows if hillary wins and populates yet another administration with heirs to robert ruben, it will be at least eight years to reclaim the party. she has a sense of destiny, says a former aid. if hillary or the man on the moon is not representing her stuff and her people don't have a seat at the table, she'll do what she can to make sure it's represented. joy reid is with thegrio.com and msnbc contributor. and josh green is senior political editor at "bloomberg businessweek." both of you, i want you both to espouse a possible course over the next two years whereby elizabeth warren runs for president with or without an opponent named hillary clinton. >> well, it's easy. i mean, elizabeth warren's political career, her caree
"the new republic" has a provocative article out there arguing that elizabeth warren from massachusetts could be gearing up to challenge clinton. "if hillary clinton runs and retains her ties to wall street, warren will be more likely to join the race, not less. warren is shrewd enough to understand the future of the democratic party is at stake in 2016. at age 64, she knows if hillary wins and populates yet another administration with heirs to robert ruben, it will be at least...
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now he's blaming -- and this was the other night in boston along deval patrick, the governor of massachusetts blaming the victims of obama care, blaming people who had insurance who have now lost it, blaming cancer patients because of the failures of their own law. the president needs to quit doubling down on the dishonesty and come forth and tell the american people that he misled them. he intentionally misled the american people and what he told them just wasn't true. >> all right, senator barasso, we're out of time. we'll have to leave it there. thank you so much for your time this afternoon. >> thanks for having me. >> well, all eyes were on the races in new jersey and virginia, but there were many other headlines and quite a few firsts from election night. in boston, the people of bean town elected state representative marty walsh to replace the city's longest serving mayor. voters in detroit elected the city's first white mayor in four decades. mike duggan will be tasked with bringing the motor city back from the financial brink. and new york city will have its first democratic mayor in
now he's blaming -- and this was the other night in boston along deval patrick, the governor of massachusetts blaming the victims of obama care, blaming people who had insurance who have now lost it, blaming cancer patients because of the failures of their own law. the president needs to quit doubling down on the dishonesty and come forth and tell the american people that he misled them. he intentionally misled the american people and what he told them just wasn't true. >> all right,...
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. >> a permutation of what happened in massachusetts where the national party, probably because they thought they were going to have it. thank you very much, steve kornacki and karen finney. you want to catch both on the weekend and every weekend, "up with steve" at 8:00 a.m., saturdays and sundays. and "disrupt with karen finney" afternoons at 4:00 p.m. we take a quick break. we're awaiting that news conference with the mayor of toronto, rob ford, who earlier today admitted using crack cocaine. ♪ [ female announcer ] can you bridge a divide with a fresh baked brownie? ♪ yes! yes you can. bake the world a better place with nestle toll house. >>> all right. we are going out to toronto. this is mayor rob ford speaking. >> with today's announcement, i know i embarrassed everyone in the city, and i will be forever sorry. there is only one person to blame for this. and that is myself. i know that admitting my mistake was the right thing to do. and i feel like a thousand pounds have been lifted off my shoulders. i can't explain how difficult this was to do. i hope -- i hope that nobody
. >> a permutation of what happened in massachusetts where the national party, probably because they thought they were going to have it. thank you very much, steve kornacki and karen finney. you want to catch both on the weekend and every weekend, "up with steve" at 8:00 a.m., saturdays and sundays. and "disrupt with karen finney" afternoons at 4:00 p.m. we take a quick break. we're awaiting that news conference with the mayor of toronto, rob ford, who earlier today...
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rob navarino and brook redpath own stores in great barrington, massachusetts. they and other small business owners in town ar transacting customers for small business saturday with factory rep demos, food tastings and discounts. for more on getting customers to shop small, watch "your business" sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. there are cameras,, police, guards...ds us. but who looks after us online, where we spend more than 200 billion dollars a year. american express can help protect you. with intelligent security that learns your spending patterns, and can alert you instantly to an unusual charge. so you can be a member of a more secure world. this is what membership is. this is what membership does. hands for holding. feet, kicking. better things than the joint pain and swelling of moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis. if you're trying to manage your ra, now may be the time to ask about xeljanz. xeljanz (tofacitinib) is a small pill for adults with moderate to severe ra for whom methotrexate did not work well. xeljanz can lower your ability to fight infe
rob navarino and brook redpath own stores in great barrington, massachusetts. they and other small business owners in town ar transacting customers for small business saturday with factory rep demos, food tastings and discounts. for more on getting customers to shop small, watch "your business" sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. there are cameras,, police, guards...ds us. but who looks after us online, where we spend more than 200 billion dollars a year. american express can help...
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the point is he was talking up massachusetts and what happened in massachusetts. point one of what happened in massachusetts was that enrollments initially were slow. after one month, 123 people. after two months 2200 people. we showed this chart briefly early on. after 11 months, 36,000. today -- a lot of the same factors, people didn't know, didn't understand. most importantly, the penalty, the real sign ups occurred when people were facing the penalty after 11 months. today, what percent of people in massachusetts are covered by health care? 97%. >> 97%. >> 97%. >> it's a high number. >> it is a high number. we have to get going in the u.s. we are not on that trajectory, yet in terms of the sign up. the small numbers. >> need the young people. >> let's look at where we are now. where are we today in terms of health care in massachusetts? in massachusetts, the percentage of people with health care increased 1%. the percentage of the country, down 5.7%. as you know, people are cancelling, employers are cancelling health insurance because it is too expensive. >> o
the point is he was talking up massachusetts and what happened in massachusetts. point one of what happened in massachusetts was that enrollments initially were slow. after one month, 123 people. after two months 2200 people. we showed this chart briefly early on. after 11 months, 36,000. today -- a lot of the same factors, people didn't know, didn't understand. most importantly, the penalty, the real sign ups occurred when people were facing the penalty after 11 months. today, what percent of...
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so the most complicated part in massachusetts just didn't exist in the original massachusetts plan. and that's been a big part of what has given healthcare.gov so much trouble. >> because in the obama care exchange, it connects to the irs main frames, it connects also to the dhs main frame. >> and to multiple states. and it connects to multiple states and attempts to do all of this income verification, all this stuff that determines how much subsidies you'll get or not get in real time. that wasn't part of the massachusetts plan when mitt romney signed it into law. >> and also i'll bring this up to dave. the "washington post" reporting the president decided against the advice of some of his advisers who lobbied for an outsider health reform czar. they write such in-a rarity has emerged as a center factor.rari emerged as a center factor. casting doubt on their capacity to carry out such a complex undertaking. the article goes on to say that really politics got in the way of the progress needed of making between decisions for this exchange build out. >> right. it was always going to b
so the most complicated part in massachusetts just didn't exist in the original massachusetts plan. and that's been a big part of what has given healthcare.gov so much trouble. >> because in the obama care exchange, it connects to the irs main frames, it connects also to the dhs main frame. >> and to multiple states. and it connects to multiple states and attempts to do all of this income verification, all this stuff that determines how much subsidies you'll get or not get in real...
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>>> coming up at the top of the hour, polls will be closed in the state of new jersey, alabama, and massachusetts. back with more election results when we return. i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n. my employer matches my charitable giving. really. i get bonuses even working part-time. where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. healthcare starting under $40 a month. i got education benefits. i work at walmart. i'm a pharmacist. sales associate. i manage produce. i work in logistics. there's more to walmart than you think. vo: opportunity. that's the real walmart. she'and you love her for it.ide. but your erectile dysfunction - that could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms of bph, like needing to go frequently or urgently. tell your doctor about all your medical conditions and medications, and ask if your heart is healthy enough for sexual activity. do not take cialis if you
>>> coming up at the top of the hour, polls will be closed in the state of new jersey, alabama, and massachusetts. back with more election results when we return. i started part-time, now i'm a manager.n. my employer matches my charitable giving. really. i get bonuses even working part-time. where i work, over 400 people are promoted every day. healthcare starting under $40 a month. i got education benefits. i work at walmart. i'm a pharmacist. sales associate. i manage produce. i work...
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. >> but to the prototype for obama care, the massachusetts health care plan created by mr. obama's former 2012 rival, mitt romney, in that first month, in that program, slow rollout, only roughly 100 people signed up. >> virtually every resident in the commonwealth is insured today. >> health care reform in this state was a success. that doesn't mean it was perfect right away. >> officials warn, the numbers would be low. >> that doesn't include those who enrolled in state exchanges. >> the state exchanges, which are essentially set up for free by the federal government in the states that accepted them, are doing very well. >> it's cranking out people that are joining up every day. >> over the last three years, internal obstacles and bureaucratic molasses threatened the whole enterprise. >> when you go to the pulse center and find out how many residents in that state are being helped, you only shake your head as to why we aren't doing that in every state of the union. >> all of this is in place right now. it is working right now. >> if there is a way that you can insure ever
. >> but to the prototype for obama care, the massachusetts health care plan created by mr. obama's former 2012 rival, mitt romney, in that first month, in that program, slow rollout, only roughly 100 people signed up. >> virtually every resident in the commonwealth is insured today. >> health care reform in this state was a success. that doesn't mean it was perfect right away. >> officials warn, the numbers would be low. >> that doesn't include those who enrolled...
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you start looking at, the experience that they had in massachusetts was. you started enrollment in almost nobody enrolled. you got near the deadline. like okay. have to pay a penalty if i don't enroll. everybody started enrolling. hear obama saying this tonight. you are not talking about the penalty setting in until three months into next year. a long time for now. i think this is going to be a contested thing in the media and politics. into next year, next january, february, march. if you get to february/march talking sizable enrollees and young, healthy people who make this, who will make the competitive pricing behind this is a reality. if you get to the point. yeah, republicans need to move on to something else. there will be a consensus at media level, yeah this phase worked. >> alex, joy, going to hang in for more stuff. you got stuff to do. you, you. >> yeah, i think steve and joy are hanging in here. i turn to a pumpkin. precisely 10:00 whatever minute. >> okay. president obama will address the reports he didn't want to keep joe biden as his runnin
you start looking at, the experience that they had in massachusetts was. you started enrollment in almost nobody enrolled. you got near the deadline. like okay. have to pay a penalty if i don't enroll. everybody started enrolling. hear obama saying this tonight. you are not talking about the penalty setting in until three months into next year. a long time for now. i think this is going to be a contested thing in the media and politics. into next year, next january, february, march. if you get...
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that will cost jobs here in massachusetts. one of the problems is what we did in massachusetts was tailored to our population. it took advantage of health care and a number of different things, one of them, steve, was the fact that we had merged the non-group market with the individual market to try to spread out risks. what does the federal plan do? well, it reduces the number of rating factors we can use to evaluate risk for that pool. it's undermine wack we want to do. in fact, we have pleaded with our governor, governor patrick has asked the federal government, give us a waiver so that we can evaluate and price risk fairly and yet we now are going to be forced to use 4 rating factors as opposed to 106789 that's one of the major points of distinction here, massachusetts plan worked because it was designed for pennsylvania. we had expertise, for instance, in pricing risks. we had growth markets in medical devices. yet, when we look at what's happening at the federal level which claims to be mirrored on what we did in massach
that will cost jobs here in massachusetts. one of the problems is what we did in massachusetts was tailored to our population. it took advantage of health care and a number of different things, one of them, steve, was the fact that we had merged the non-group market with the individual market to try to spread out risks. what does the federal plan do? well, it reduces the number of rating factors we can use to evaluate risk for that pool. it's undermine wack we want to do. in fact, we have...
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this was after looking at the success in massachusetts. he said, you know what? here's a system that works. yes, it was originally a republican idea, but it works. let's do it. i heard this described as the most partisan/bipartisan law. and i think it's right. you only because it has president obama's name on it suddenly it's a problem. >> so we agree. the republicans have no plan for the country. >> they do not. >> thank you. some of the most ludicrous criticism of the president came from the high offices -- i'm being sarcastic -- of reince priebus. this is shawn spicer accusing the president of the united states of blocking. here they are, gop ideas to insure more than 40 million americans. those are ideas no one has heard of. here we go. >> every time there seems to be a problem with obama care, the president says i'm going to delay this, i'm going to exempt this group. but when republicans talk about fixing or replacing it, the cry is how dare you. you can't do this. it's a law. it was passed. when the president does it unilaterally, democrats have no problem
this was after looking at the success in massachusetts. he said, you know what? here's a system that works. yes, it was originally a republican idea, but it works. let's do it. i heard this described as the most partisan/bipartisan law. and i think it's right. you only because it has president obama's name on it suddenly it's a problem. >> so we agree. the republicans have no plan for the country. >> they do not. >> thank you. some of the most ludicrous criticism of the...
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in 2012 when the tea party was doing pretty well, mitt romney, a guy who passed health care in massachusetts got the nomination. >> i would just say if you look at ornstein's book and trace legislative patterns, electoral patterns, governing patterns, the right has swung further right than the left. >> moderate mitt. >> i actually agree with you alex, with all deference to the great grand journalist. i don't think the left, quote, unquote, left of the democratic party has never been as left as the right of the republican party and held the kind of deference and sway in the democratic party that the right has. this is the notion republicans have feared their base in that oh, no we better capitulate them. democrats fear their base as oh, no, we can't be seen associating with them. no one really strong wanted to jump in in 2012. i don't think that will be the cains 2016. is are the democrats holding sway? >> you were in monmouth county. >> when you're in new york where the journalists are you can take the train in five minutes and be in new jersey. we went to new jersey, a survivor story. i wen
in 2012 when the tea party was doing pretty well, mitt romney, a guy who passed health care in massachusetts got the nomination. >> i would just say if you look at ornstein's book and trace legislative patterns, electoral patterns, governing patterns, the right has swung further right than the left. >> moderate mitt. >> i actually agree with you alex, with all deference to the great grand journalist. i don't think the left, quote, unquote, left of the democratic party has...
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massachusetts is ahead of us in all of this. they have done the same thing with what we like to call romney care. so they said it was the same thing. people usually tend not to sign up until the last minute. and nobody is due until -- nothing is available even until january 1st. there's no penalty until march 1st, which is months away. and if you're a small business coming in, you don't have to come until your existing policy rolls over, which could be a year from now. so i think we have got to be a little patient with the, you know, first two minutes of the game outcomes and predicting what the final score is going to be. >> well, obama care is going to be a big story in 2014. is there any parallel by the way it was handled by terry mcauliffe in virginia and the way the democrats and the mid terms should handle it in 2014? he didn't run away from it and his opponent was saying it was a referendum. the election was a referendum on obama care. how do you break that down, and what do you see for 2014? >> you know, it's hard for me
massachusetts is ahead of us in all of this. they have done the same thing with what we like to call romney care. so they said it was the same thing. people usually tend not to sign up until the last minute. and nobody is due until -- nothing is available even until january 1st. there's no penalty until march 1st, which is months away. and if you're a small business coming in, you don't have to come until your existing policy rolls over, which could be a year from now. so i think we have got to...
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in 2010, scott brown of massachusetts wins the special election up there after running a campaign to kill the legislation. his victory gives the gop 41 votes in the senate which gives them the power to block any fixes or improvements in the new law. republican governors across the country refuse to build their own state exchanges putting unexpected pressure on the federal exchanges. then congressional republicans refuse to give hhs the money it needs to build the federal exchange. then there's the obstruction campaigns. they include gop darling like rush limbaugh and dick marsh ways to avoid or sign petitions rejecting their exchanges. then there's the gop icing on the cake. the shutdown and the threat to blow up the economy. strong stuff. ron reagan, i want to start with you. this has been a concerted effort. it's like when you read about lincoln coming to washington because the secession movement has begun. they didn't give this guy a honeymoon. they didn't give him nothing. they started going after him from the beginning. >> no. and they haven't learned their lesson. they just got
in 2010, scott brown of massachusetts wins the special election up there after running a campaign to kill the legislation. his victory gives the gop 41 votes in the senate which gives them the power to block any fixes or improvements in the new law. republican governors across the country refuse to build their own state exchanges putting unexpected pressure on the federal exchanges. then congressional republicans refuse to give hhs the money it needs to build the federal exchange. then there's...
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it worked in massachusetts. it's not looking good in the early months. the question is how will it unfold. the president unfortunately got himself in a box on two issues. one nobody would lose their health insurance no matter what and the other idea is not everybody will be better off. some will have to pay more. that's the nature of insurance. for every story of yours, there's an editorial in "journal" where a woman can't get insurance and is very sick. it's a year to the mid-term elections. the website will be a memory by then. the question is are people signed up. >> we'll get back to this but we have another big story this morning. later today twitter will begin trading on the new york stock exchange. the company has listed its initial public offering at $26 a share. it's the largest technology ipo since facebook debuted last year. >> so steve should willie and i buy this stock? >> willie asked me that before. i didn't want to answer off camera. >> i know. i heard that. i pretended i didn't hear it. i asked you on camera. >> steve, should i buy twitt
it worked in massachusetts. it's not looking good in the early months. the question is how will it unfold. the president unfortunately got himself in a box on two issues. one nobody would lose their health insurance no matter what and the other idea is not everybody will be better off. some will have to pay more. that's the nature of insurance. for every story of yours, there's an editorial in "journal" where a woman can't get insurance and is very sick. it's a year to the mid-term...
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as we look, though, at massachusetts, an example from '0 s '06. enrollment was slow there too, people procrastinating, signing up at the last minute. we fast forward to now and your home state of kentucky. it has emerged as a poster child for the south. we have more than 345,000 website visits, nearly 60,000 applications started and some 32,000 have enrolled. why is kentucky working so well? >> well, i think the governor made a decision very early on that we were going to do our own exchange, took advantage of the federal grant program to build the exchange, brought in very, very good people and made some very critical decisions early on that i think helped. one of them which the federal exchange didn't make was to allow people to browse the site and browse the plans without going through the application process. so to a certain extent we were lucky, but it was basically the commitment of the administration to make sure that it worked. when you're only dealing with one state and one set of providers and one set of insurance rules and one set of in
as we look, though, at massachusetts, an example from '0 s '06. enrollment was slow there too, people procrastinating, signing up at the last minute. we fast forward to now and your home state of kentucky. it has emerged as a poster child for the south. we have more than 345,000 website visits, nearly 60,000 applications started and some 32,000 have enrolled. why is kentucky working so well? >> well, i think the governor made a decision very early on that we were going to do our own...
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they criteria the example of massachusetts wherein the first month of what was a year-long enrollment period, just 123 people signed up, which was just .3% of the entire number. perhaps more significantly right now, one of the bigger concerns for this white house is the scramble to try to fix the website, to try to improve the total number of individuals that sign up. the number by the cbo, the suggestion was that they wanted to have about 7 million people signed up over the course of the six-moen rollment period. but jeffrey zients acknowledged it was not really clear whether they would be all set by the end of the month, saying we are not where we need to be. we're not where we want to be, to use his exact language. >> and yet the president has given himself, as it were, that deadline of the end of this month, isn't he? >> yeah, that's exactly right. this has been something very important to the president over the weekend. white house aides confirmed to me, there was an unsparing dressing down of senior advisers by this president. two weeks after the enrollment, he said if he had kn
they criteria the example of massachusetts wherein the first month of what was a year-long enrollment period, just 123 people signed up, which was just .3% of the entire number. perhaps more significantly right now, one of the bigger concerns for this white house is the scramble to try to fix the website, to try to improve the total number of individuals that sign up. the number by the cbo, the suggestion was that they wanted to have about 7 million people signed up over the course of the...
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take mitt romney who ran as a moderate in massachusetts, not once, but twice and that's obviously the obama campaign and they believe at least on social issues they successfully painted him as somebody who was too conservative for the mainstream. it doesn't surprise me that that's going to be the tactic that they use. if you look at virginia, we're seeing this is a successful strategy right now, that the brand of the republican party particularly on social issues. all republicans are vulnerable to this because they end up having to own sort of where the entire party is sitting on social issues, but it will be difficult. if new jersey is a place for gay marriage. if this is a guy that's walking hand in hand in the boardwalk with barack obama while they're playing see ball together. it will be hard for the average voter to think, yeah, that guy is -- especially if ted cruz is running. >> and another place like south carolina, especially an average voter. >> chuck todd, thank you so much, sir. >> catch "the daily rundown" week days 9:00 a.m. eastern. let's bring in former pennsylvania go
take mitt romney who ran as a moderate in massachusetts, not once, but twice and that's obviously the obama campaign and they believe at least on social issues they successfully painted him as somebody who was too conservative for the mainstream. it doesn't surprise me that that's going to be the tactic that they use. if you look at virginia, we're seeing this is a successful strategy right now, that the brand of the republican party particularly on social issues. all republicans are vulnerable...
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. >> the administration points out that early enrollment in romney care got a slow start in massachusetts as well. 123 people signed up the first month, for example. do we need to just give this thing a chance? >> well, i mean it's certainly -- i think everyone agrees that the rollout has been a disaster. the waste of money put into this website is a mess and clearly people are frustrated and they can't sign up for something. >> well, i don't know if it's a waste of money. they are fixing it. >> okay. so i guess i would concede that eventually i would imagine this website is going to get fixed. so i mean i get that part. i think the bigger issues that we are going to face are, number one, the fact that hundreds of thousands of people are certainly being cancelled by their insurance companies when they were promised by the president that that wouldn't happen. >> i want to start with that because i want to be fair about that. the people who are getting these notices, first of all, they have to be offered another plan. and the reason that they're getting these notices is because they don't h
. >> the administration points out that early enrollment in romney care got a slow start in massachusetts as well. 123 people signed up the first month, for example. do we need to just give this thing a chance? >> well, i mean it's certainly -- i think everyone agrees that the rollout has been a disaster. the waste of money put into this website is a mess and clearly people are frustrated and they can't sign up for something. >> well, i don't know if it's a waste of money....
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we've seen it work in massachusetts that would be as undisruptive as possible. and in good faith tried to write the law in a way for people to keep their care. although we believe ultimately they're going to be better off when they're buying health care through the market places they can access tax credits and benefitting from more choice in competition. obviously we didn't do a good enough job in terms of how we drafted the law. that's something we're going to do everything we can to get fixed. >> by the way, that sounds like you're supportive of the legislation. the various things out there. >> we're looking at a range of options. one thing i want to emphasize is everybody is acting as if the existing market was working, and the fact of the matter is that a whole lot of people who were in this individual market who were buying health care on their own because they're not getting it through their employer, they might be happy with it this year. and then suddenly next year the cost got jacked up by 15%, 20%. the average increase on premiums in this individual ma
we've seen it work in massachusetts that would be as undisruptive as possible. and in good faith tried to write the law in a way for people to keep their care. although we believe ultimately they're going to be better off when they're buying health care through the market places they can access tax credits and benefitting from more choice in competition. obviously we didn't do a good enough job in terms of how we drafted the law. that's something we're going to do everything we can to get...
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in massachusetts, young people were among the last to sign up because the initial wave of people are going to be those who need it most urgently. until those young people start lining up later in the game, we need to not turn them off of the system. all of the pundits who are exploiting this for political gain need to make sure they understand the system will be up and running and you do need to sign up for your sake so we don't have uninsured young people and so we're not shouldering the burden of emergency care for all those people. >> kathleen, what do you make of all this? there are skeptics. there are always going to be skeptics when there are big pieces of legislation. this legislation should not be without its skepticism given how it's been rolled out. >> absolutely. i have a couple things to say in response to your point, the young people signing up. the way to push that is to appeal to parents. parents will ultimately have to foot the bill if their kid gets hurt or has some catastrophic event. >> and parents can bug their children too. >> my son is sort of libertarianish. he
in massachusetts, young people were among the last to sign up because the initial wave of people are going to be those who need it most urgently. until those young people start lining up later in the game, we need to not turn them off of the system. all of the pundits who are exploiting this for political gain need to make sure they understand the system will be up and running and you do need to sign up for your sake so we don't have uninsured young people and so we're not shouldering the...
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president obama last week in a speech in boston, massachusetts, talked about what was unfolding in the state of kentucky, and said that pretty much this is the model. well, let me tell you something. this is the man right here, who is making it happen in the state of kentucky. this is the man who understands the vision, and is making health care a reality for kentucky residents. i sat down with the governor of kentucky today, steve beshear. governor beshear has been a big part of obama care's success in the state. as soon as the law was passed, he saw the vision. they got to work on the infrastructure for the exchange. they're up and running and it's working. he's cut through all the negative misinformation, and all of the lies that have been out there about obama care, and clearly explained to us today why this law is good, it's working, and it's great for the country as a whole. >> congratulations. >> thank you very much. thanks for coming to kentucky. >> it's good to be here. why is it so smooth in kentucky? >> well, our folks are the real heroes here, ed. the people that work in th
president obama last week in a speech in boston, massachusetts, talked about what was unfolding in the state of kentucky, and said that pretty much this is the model. well, let me tell you something. this is the man right here, who is making it happen in the state of kentucky. this is the man who understands the vision, and is making health care a reality for kentucky residents. i sat down with the governor of kentucky today, steve beshear. governor beshear has been a big part of obama care's...
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they are so pathetic. >> massachusetts signed up 168 the first month. >> there you go. tina brown and ralph reid, thank you so much. you are watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ [ male announcer ] the beautifully practical and practically beautiful cadillac srx. get the best offers of the season now. lease this 2014 srx for around $369 a month with premium care maintenance included. ♪ but with less energy, moodiness, and a low sex drive,y first. i saw my doctor. a blood test showed it was low testosterone, not age. we talked about axiron. the only underarm low t treatment that can restore t levels to normal in about 2 weeks in most men. axiron is not for use in women or anyone younger than 18 or men with prostate or breast cancer. women especially those who are or who may become pregnant and children should avoid contact where axiron is applied as unexpected signs of puberty in children or changes in body hair or increased acne in women m
they are so pathetic. >> massachusetts signed up 168 the first month. >> there you go. tina brown and ralph reid, thank you so much. you are watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ ♪ stacy's mom has got it goin' on ♪ [ male announcer ] the beautifully practical and practically beautiful cadillac srx. get the best offers of the season now. lease this 2014 srx for around $369 a month...
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. >> i want to bring in our elections expert, if you will, who is housed in cambridge, massachusetts right now. sasha eisenberg, author of "the secret science of winning campaigns" which thankfully is out in paper back. it's great to see you, my friend. i think the last time we talked was in the wake of the 2012 election. i woernd given the work you did and reporting you did in that election cycle whether you think any lessons have been learned on the right side of the aisle in terms of voter outrage? can we see any lessons in virginia? >> i've been really surprised. there's been a lot of lip service on the right starting with rnc postmortem report that came out this year, talking about the need to make better investments and the ground game, the use of data and analytics. i don't in talking to republicans at the national or local level see a lot of people who have developed the expertise to do that. this is difficult, sophisticated stuff. your normal sort of political operative staffer types don't have the skill set to do it. in the wake of the democrat's loss in 2004, they invest i
. >> i want to bring in our elections expert, if you will, who is housed in cambridge, massachusetts right now. sasha eisenberg, author of "the secret science of winning campaigns" which thankfully is out in paper back. it's great to see you, my friend. i think the last time we talked was in the wake of the 2012 election. i woernd given the work you did and reporting you did in that election cycle whether you think any lessons have been learned on the right side of the aisle in...
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rob navarino and brook own stores on main street in massachusetts. they and other small business owners are attracting customers for small business saturday with food tastings, factory rack demos and food discounts. watch "your business" sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. there are cameras,, police, guards...ds us. but who looks after us online, where we spend more than 200 billion dollars a year. american express can help protect you. with intelligent security that learns your spending patterns, and can alert you instantly to an unusual charge. so you can be a member of a more secure world. this is what membership is. this is what membership does. pcentury link provides reliable yit services like multi-layered security solution to keep your information safe & secure. century link. your link with what's next. his day of coaching begins with knee pain, when... [ man ] hey, brad, want to trade the all-day relief of two aleve for six tylenol? what's the catch? there's no catch. you want me to give up my two aleve for six tylenol? no. for my knee pain, not
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you can see the radar, showing up in massachusetts, connecticut, first snow showers for boston, providence, even philadelphia. looks like baltimore to d.c., it's kind of dried up a little bit. doesn't look like you'll see your first flakes today. the cold air is moving all the way to the deep south. this is an air mass we've seen late december, early january. the temperatures on the map tell the story. look at the windchill right now. st. louis, chicago, kansas city, omaha, teens all the way across into the great lakes heading for tennessee, kentucky, later tonight mississippi, alabama, louisiana. for a lot of us, it will be the coldest temperatures we' seen since last winter, even with sunshine today. only 36 in kansas city, same for you in st. louis. in the deep south, get ready, later on tonight the cold air will be right over the top of you. we'll be down to 24 in little rock. there are freeze warnings out. if you have plants out there, this will be the end of the growing season for much of texas, louisiana, mississippi, alabama, around central georgia, right around atlanta down to abo
you can see the radar, showing up in massachusetts, connecticut, first snow showers for boston, providence, even philadelphia. looks like baltimore to d.c., it's kind of dried up a little bit. doesn't look like you'll see your first flakes today. the cold air is moving all the way to the deep south. this is an air mass we've seen late december, early january. the temperatures on the map tell the story. look at the windchill right now. st. louis, chicago, kansas city, omaha, teens all the way...
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we know that based on the experience they had in massachusetts where at the state level they implemented a very similar plan. it shouldn't surprise anybody even if the website were up and running perfectly, most people take a little bit of time to shop around and don't need their final selection until the deadline gets near. so yes, we've got to get this website up and running because right now people aren't able to figure out what their alternatives could be. but even if it were running perfectly, you would not see a big tick up at this point in time. i'm hearing signs that the enrollment in medicaid is going to be i think fairly robust. and that means many, many americans are going to have access to that health care, except of course those in states that have refused to expand medicare and they are going to leave 5 million people behind. >> absolutely. let me ask you about some of your colleagues, some democrats who as we play now and including dianne feinstein, she is co-sponsoring a bill with senator mary landrieu that would require insurance companies to continue offering the existi
we know that based on the experience they had in massachusetts where at the state level they implemented a very similar plan. it shouldn't surprise anybody even if the website were up and running perfectly, most people take a little bit of time to shop around and don't need their final selection until the deadline gets near. so yes, we've got to get this website up and running because right now people aren't able to figure out what their alternatives could be. but even if it were running...
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when you look at the experience in massachusetts, which is probably the most instructive one, only 0.3% of the people who ultimately enrolled did so in the first month. the vast majority did it right before the deadline and most of the young people did it before the deadline. i just don't want to panic when we're only 30 days, 40 days into enrollment. we've got plenty of time for this thing to work and ultimately given the fact that we know it's an affordable product, especially for young people to have subsidies, they're going to end up signing up. i think a lot of this is just a political cloud created by republicans who never wanted this thing to work in the first place. in the end, we've got a product that sells. we know that in connecticut. >> do you have a sense of when, depending on what the numbers are, you'll either panic or breathe a sigh of relief and say, see, it is working. >> i think we're not there yet. we need to get well into next year as we start to look at the numbers as we come towards march before any of us have a sense of whether the website has had a significant h
when you look at the experience in massachusetts, which is probably the most instructive one, only 0.3% of the people who ultimately enrolled did so in the first month. the vast majority did it right before the deadline and most of the young people did it before the deadline. i just don't want to panic when we're only 30 days, 40 days into enrollment. we've got plenty of time for this thing to work and ultimately given the fact that we know it's an affordable product, especially for young...
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we know it works fine in massachusetts. it's up and running. let's give the thing a chance to work here. i'll admit we've had a horrible rollout since october 1st. but that same thing happened in social security. it happened in medicare part "d." let's give it a chance and see where it ends up. >> james carville and bill kristol, thank you very much. richard haass, thank you as well. meacham, can you stay with us? >> yes, ma'am. >> up next, the bully pulpit. doris kearns goodwin here with her brand-new book on the golden age of journalism. princeton professor evan thomas joining us for that as well. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. american express credit card, every purchase earns you 2% cash back, which is deposited in your fidelity account. is that it? actually... there's no annual fee and no limits on rewards. and with the fidelity cash management account debit card, you get reimbursed for all atm fees. is that it? oh, this guy, too. turn more of the money you spend into money you invest. it's everyday reinvesting for you
we know it works fine in massachusetts. it's up and running. let's give the thing a chance to work here. i'll admit we've had a horrible rollout since october 1st. but that same thing happened in social security. it happened in medicare part "d." let's give it a chance and see where it ends up. >> james carville and bill kristol, thank you very much. richard haass, thank you as well. meacham, can you stay with us? >> yes, ma'am. >> up next, the bully pulpit. doris...
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he's the massachusetts governor who was a centrist governor. i think he's looking at christie that can run the campaign he should have win. >> that would be real serendipity. christie wanted that job and romney obviously looked at him and found him too heavyweight, actually too big for the job. >> chris christie -- >> he's losing some weight. >> that conversation with kelly o'donnell. >> i had a conversation with him once where i made a stupid crack about his weight and he called me up and said i'm working on it. you can't not like a guy like that. who doesn't have weight problems. >> a lot of americans can relate to that. we've got three big races today, new york city mayor, bill de blasio against joe lhota. terry mcauliffe is several points ahead of ken cuccinelli and chris christie has a wide lead over barbara buono. but virginia, new jersey say a lot of the ballots for the heart of the republican party. the clintons are really making virginia their territory. >> exactexactly. >> but it's going to show the difference between chris christie t
he's the massachusetts governor who was a centrist governor. i think he's looking at christie that can run the campaign he should have win. >> that would be real serendipity. christie wanted that job and romney obviously looked at him and found him too heavyweight, actually too big for the job. >> chris christie -- >> he's losing some weight. >> that conversation with kelly o'donnell. >> i had a conversation with him once where i made a stupid crack about his...
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he had a major policy program in the health care program in massachusetts. when you look at christie's problems they don't originate with policy differences. he's conservative when it comes to policy. no rudy giuliani. it is his style, relationship with the president which bothers conservatives. >> bob costa, thanks very much. >> the markets are riding high on this holiday. the cycle rolls on. it's monday, veterans day, 2013. ♪ ♪ to all the veterans... no longer in uniform, but still serving... on the job and in our communities... whose dedication and commitment to excellence continues... in every mission, whatever it may be... affecting our lives every day... for your continued service, we salute you. this message of appreciation to our nations' veterans is brought to you by paralyzed veterans of america and unitedhealth group. pcentury link provides reliable yit services like multi-layered security solution to keep your information safe & secure. century link. your link with what's next. >>> wall street up and running and the markets are in positive te
he had a major policy program in the health care program in massachusetts. when you look at christie's problems they don't originate with policy differences. he's conservative when it comes to policy. no rudy giuliani. it is his style, relationship with the president which bothers conservatives. >> bob costa, thanks very much. >> the markets are riding high on this holiday. the cycle rolls on. it's monday, veterans day, 2013. ♪ ♪ to all the veterans... no longer in uniform, but...
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that is slightly better than the 2007 massachusetts enrollment rate that the white house has been comparing itself to. remember, high enrollment is the key to making this entire law work. with tech issues and glitches, the administration is far off track of its goal of 7 million people enrolled by the end of march. white house had a word of caution. >> i cannot confirm those numbers. you know, there have been a variety of reports saying a variety of different things, i have not seen specific figures, but i anticipate that we will be releasing data about enrollment by the end of the week. >> so let's take it to the bank, "washington post" dana milbank, that is. as our favorite d.c. cynic. what do you make of these snubz. >> i'm not a cynic, just a little -- >> they are disappointing numbers of course, but expectations are so low. if they -- the fact they made it out of the double digits is going to surprise some folks. but of course, you know, the people are just pouncing at this point. i was on a conference call this morning and it was just painful. i think she should -- after the q and a i
that is slightly better than the 2007 massachusetts enrollment rate that the white house has been comparing itself to. remember, high enrollment is the key to making this entire law work. with tech issues and glitches, the administration is far off track of its goal of 7 million people enrolled by the end of march. white house had a word of caution. >> i cannot confirm those numbers. you know, there have been a variety of reports saying a variety of different things, i have not seen...
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she calls the massachusetts freshman senator clinton's biggest nightmare. editor joins me now, thank you very much. how serious do you think this would be? i know elizabeth warren is saying she's not running, won't do this. a lot of people in the party not only want to see a challenge to hillary clinton but want to see a challenge even if it isn't realized. they just want to make sure she doesn't move too far to the center. >> that's exactly right. there's three questions to think through as we have this conversation. one, has the party changed since the last time hillary ran in 2008. i think all the polling data suggests it has. it's much more populace, rank and file democrats skeptical of power and influence of large corporations, more skeptical of wall street in general. clearly the data bears out a movement among the rank and file. two, would this present a problem for hillary clinton? no question it would. going back to the anyone 90s when her husband ran for lot o them some of the intellectual architects of their economic policy and that continues to
she calls the massachusetts freshman senator clinton's biggest nightmare. editor joins me now, thank you very much. how serious do you think this would be? i know elizabeth warren is saying she's not running, won't do this. a lot of people in the party not only want to see a challenge to hillary clinton but want to see a challenge even if it isn't realized. they just want to make sure she doesn't move too far to the center. >> that's exactly right. there's three questions to think through...
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introduced by paul tsongas, a democrat for massachusetts. what no one saw coming then was the backlash. brand-new, well organized backlash from culturally conservative forces. it was the pace of social and cultural change in the 1970s that gave rise to the religious right. fundamentalists and evangelical conservatives, many of whom never previously involved in politics. found their leader first in anita bryant, a one-time beauty queen who had become the spokeswoman for the florida citrus commission and a dabbler in conservative politics. when dade county and florida passed an anti-discrimination ordinance, bryant launched a fight to repeal it, save our children, that was the name of the group she started. she and her group won at the polls in a landslide. so she went national. other cities enacted gay rights ordinances and with bryant in a growing army of religious conservatives now engaged, those ordinances began falling one by one. >> wichita, kansas, has or had a law upholding the rights of homosexuals and jobs, housing and so on. yesterd
introduced by paul tsongas, a democrat for massachusetts. what no one saw coming then was the backlash. brand-new, well organized backlash from culturally conservative forces. it was the pace of social and cultural change in the 1970s that gave rise to the religious right. fundamentalists and evangelical conservatives, many of whom never previously involved in politics. found their leader first in anita bryant, a one-time beauty queen who had become the spokeswoman for the florida citrus...
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rob navarino and brook redpath own stores on main street in great barrington, massachusetts. they and other small business owners in town are attracting customers for small business saturday with factory rep demos, and discounts. for more watch "your business" sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. ♪ ♪ you get your coffee here. you get your hair cut here. you find that certain thing you were looking for here, but actually you get so much more. when you shop at these small local businesses, you support all the things that make your community great. the money you spend here, stays here. in this place you call your neighborhood. small business saturday is november 30th. get out and shop small. i put in the hourswhere i am today by luck. and built a strong reputation in the industry. i set goals and worked hard to meet them. i've made my success happen. so when it comes to my investments, i'm supposed to just hand it over to a broker and back away? that's not gonna happen. avo: when you work with a schwab financial consultant, you'll get the guidance you need with the control you w
rob navarino and brook redpath own stores on main street in great barrington, massachusetts. they and other small business owners in town are attracting customers for small business saturday with factory rep demos, and discounts. for more watch "your business" sunday morning at 7:30 on msnbc. ♪ ♪ you get your coffee here. you get your hair cut here. you find that certain thing you were looking for here, but actually you get so much more. when you shop at these small local...
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our first contestant, originally from brookline, massachusettes the birthplace of jfk, mike wallace and michael did yukakis from santa fe new mexico, home of the minor league juggernaut the santa bay fuego, say hello to alex. today's contestant from new orleans, louisiana, home of the new orleans pelicans, it's mellissa harris-perry. here's the host of up against the clock, steve kornacki. >> oh, thank you, studio audience, thank you everyone for tuneing in for another thrill packed edition of up against the clock. melissa today's celebrity guest contestant. you foe the rules by now and at hope, wrong answers will cost you. there are a few instant bonuses scattered throughout these questions. as always, studio audience, i implore you, please, no outbursts, our contestants demand absolute concentration with that, i will ask you, contestants, are you ready? . we will start with 100 second on the clock in the 100 point round. we will go, 25 years ago yesterday, george h.b. bush was elected president over what -- >> dukakis. michael dukakis the defeated candidate. the next question, 3 billi
our first contestant, originally from brookline, massachusettes the birthplace of jfk, mike wallace and michael did yukakis from santa fe new mexico, home of the minor league juggernaut the santa bay fuego, say hello to alex. today's contestant from new orleans, louisiana, home of the new orleans pelicans, it's mellissa harris-perry. here's the host of up against the clock, steve kornacki. >> oh, thank you, studio audience, thank you everyone for tuneing in for another thrill packed...
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think the important thing here, alex, is to understand that when we rolled out medicare part d when massachusetts did its health care, universal health care system, they had similar delays. there were peaks that april came well into the open enrollment and certainly part did was not without its bugs in the system. the idea is not to point a finger of blame but extend a hand of help on behalf of congress. let's get together and get this thing running. people want to embrace the benefits of the act. i hear it more and more. look, i've been asked to vote 46, 47 times over to repeal the affordable care act by the republican majority in our house. they have wanted to destroy this opportunity for our americans to have health care benefits since its inception. and it's time to really get to work and get the system running. >> representative tomko, is there an educated guess as to what the numbers may be when they're released officially in about a month? do we have any idea, speculation how many people are signing up? >> you know, it's hard to say. in my hope state of new york that has its own exchange,
think the important thing here, alex, is to understand that when we rolled out medicare part d when massachusetts did its health care, universal health care system, they had similar delays. there were peaks that april came well into the open enrollment and certainly part did was not without its bugs in the system. the idea is not to point a finger of blame but extend a hand of help on behalf of congress. let's get together and get this thing running. people want to embrace the benefits of the...
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every one of them by many of the same economists and massachusetts is basically working pretty well. we had an expansion to a prescription drug entitlement under president bush t. computers the donut. then it was a different argument. then it was republicans don't like new programs, so they don't make it work. that's why it's failing. it's a bit different as an argument. it was the same thing, growing pains. then it worked. i promise if you go back to when it was enstalled, you will find that there weren't any computers, but, you know, are they going to get the pastal system working? are they going to get the files created and keep track of people's payrolls? that doesn't mean this isn't jer e serious. but my bet is that this is not going to be a history books, 25 years from now t. fact that america joined the realm of every other industrialized country in having health ens for all its people is going to be in the history box 25 years from now. that doesn't make this any easier right now. but it is something that i think your viewers should remember. >> i appreciate that balance. lar
every one of them by many of the same economists and massachusetts is basically working pretty well. we had an expansion to a prescription drug entitlement under president bush t. computers the donut. then it was a different argument. then it was republicans don't like new programs, so they don't make it work. that's why it's failing. it's a bit different as an argument. it was the same thing, growing pains. then it worked. i promise if you go back to when it was enstalled, you will find that...
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you went to university of massachusetts. is that because you didn't have a lot of choices, you were a late bloomer? talk about what it was like to go to a school not known for basketball and emerge like you did. >> it was like the big fish in the little ponld. i could go somewhere, be a little fish in a big pond or a -- >> you could have gone to those places? >> i heard from schools. i only visited iowa state in terms of big eight. never heard from pac-10. never heard from the acc. they actually recruited two kids all long island players and one was a guy named bill chamber lan who went to north carolina and tom reicher who went to south carolina. they were in my class coming out of high school. we were part of two of the long island players. i went to u mass and the other guy, the fourth guy went to penn. >> donny. >> it's where i went. i grew up watching you play. big fan. i was in philly when you were playing with the sixers. i have never seen other athletes talk with such reverence about other athletes. obviously, today,
you went to university of massachusetts. is that because you didn't have a lot of choices, you were a late bloomer? talk about what it was like to go to a school not known for basketball and emerge like you did. >> it was like the big fish in the little ponld. i could go somewhere, be a little fish in a big pond or a -- >> you could have gone to those places? >> i heard from schools. i only visited iowa state in terms of big eight. never heard from pac-10. never heard from the...